Julius Peppers’ Understanding of ‘Mutual Decision’ is Skewed

EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ - OCTOBER 03: Julius Peppers of the Chicago Bears looks on from the bench while playing against the New York Giants at New Meadowlands Stadium on October 3, 2010 in East Rutherford, New Jersey. (Photo by Michael Heiman/Getty Images)

While perusing the internet, I’ve come across multiple accounts from Chicago Bears’ defensive end Julius Peppers, recounting his “sour” departure from the Carolina Panthers. Seriously?

The Panthers invested a lot of time and money into keeping this guy around, and in the end, it was a mutual split. When quoted as saying such, there should be no “yeah, but,” involved. A mutual decision means two opposing parties agreed on one common vision.

“The split.”

They wanted to go in a different direction and I did, too. So it was a mutual split. –Bears DE Julius Peppers

During Peppers’ time in Carolina, the Panthers tried twice to make him the highest paid defensive player in the league. Both times Pep refused; including the offseason following his three-sack season.

Carolina made Peppers a couple of offers in the 2009 offseason, and again following the 2009 regular season. As I remember correctly, their offer fell short of $1.5 million what Chicago offered Peppers.

Peppers, now playing for the Bears on a five-year, $91.5 million contract, felt betrayed by the Carolina Panthers, in that there were no parting words offered him from general manager Marty Hurney nor head coach John Fox. Apparently, Peppers’ understanding of “mutual decision” is skewed. When two sides agree mutually to go in different directions, there is no need for parting words. The deal is done.

Not to worry, Julius. No other player on the team — Jake Delhomme aside — received special treatment when they received their dismissals, either. Just ask teammate Chris Harris or former teammate Brad Hoover.

Pep wanted his payday, and he got it. He even made such statements that he had always wanted to play for a franchise with so much history behind it. In the end, Peppers got what he wanted, but now he’s whining for an apology and is still upset that fans accuse him of taking plays off? Deal with it! Stats are more than just numbers, especially when one reviews the stats and sees which games, at what time, and which teams these stats occur against. Peppers might be able to fudge the story a bit, but his stat line has a difficult time lying as well as he does.

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Topics: Carolina Panthers, Chicago Bears, Chris Harris, Jake Delhomme, John Fox, Julius Peppers, Marty Hurney, NFL

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  • http://www.facebook.com/shannonleighowens Shannon Owens

    Julius Peppers is probably the dumbest and most egotistical football player in this entire league. I’m sorry that the Panthers don’t let you “pick which side of the field to play on” or pay you 837537457349 million dollars. Newsflash: YOU’RE. NOT. WORTH. IT! He can whine all he wants, but what it comes down to is he wanted more money and the Panthers weren’t dumb enough to pay him for work he wasn’t doing. You’re right, the Panthers did kind of screw over a lot of players.. even their beloved Jake! Yes, Jake got special attention. You know why? Because he is an AMAZING guy and did so much for the team OFF the field. What’s that saying? Last one on the field, first one to leave? That’s what Julius reminds me of. I hope we run them over. No offense to Harris, though, because he still is awesome.

  • jay

    O.k. this goes out to Shannon Owens and Eric Quackenbush. Peppers always wanted out of Carolina,he made that loud and clear he didn’t beat around the brush. But the dumb front office couldn’t realize that until it was too late. The panthers could have traded him and got something in return. How can you blame the guy for leaving? He saw this coming. He knew the panther gave upon their fans and wanted to rebuild. And last time I check his team is 3-1 and he’s having a good year. Just check with the bears fans. He only has two sacks but he is controlling the line. How can you be mad at him? If you had a job you didn’t like and you had the chance to go to a better job with more pay ill bet your take it in a heart beat. Stop being mad at him and start being mad at the front office. Look how they threw in the towel by putting bunch of rookie’s in. and not signing a good free agent. Now we 0-4 and we are mad at peppers for not staying? I really can’t stand Shannon Owens and Eric Quackenbush mindset. In the end of the day peppers got kids and a family to worry about. SO BEFORE YOU START WRITING START THINKING.

    • coffee

      You might want to read the article again. Everyone AGREES that Pep wanted out of Carolina … EXCEPT PEP! He’s now pretending he wanted to stay but didn’t have the opportunity because the front office supposedly just ignored him. What actually happened is they finally quit begging and throwing huge offers his way and decided they had to go another direction.

      The reason we ABSOLUTELY KNOW which side is telling the truth is that the Panthers were even willing to pay him a million dollars a game for a whole season to give him enough time to FINALLY agree to a contract. When he still refused, they moved on. If he really did want to stay, he simply played chicken with them for too long (which still makes it HIS fault).

      Funny thing is, the organization NEVER said ANYTHING bad about him. Now, in return, he’s trashing the Panthers to the press while pretending they’re the ones trashing him.

      (BTW, it’s ridiculous to say how good Pep’s playing & then say the front office messed up by trying as long as possible to keep him here.)

    • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blitzradio Eric Quackenbush

      Where did I say I was mad at Peppers for not staying? I suggest you go back and read and point out to me where I said I was mad at Peppers for not staying in Carolina. Do I think Peppers is a crybaby attention whore? Absolutely! A man would have said, “that’s behind me, I’m on a new team, I like where I am, and I just want to help my team win games.” But not Peppers; he’s the defensive version of Donovan McNabb. Always looking for attention. If you don’t like my opinion, then don’t read it. Simple enough.

  • http://www.yahoo.com BigC

    Quackenbush you are sadly mistaken… as usual!!! The Panthers never made Peppers any offer after the 2009 season. There were many articles written about this during that time. Hurney when asked about the lack of communication pretty much confirmed they hadn’t talked at the end of the season last year.

    • coffee

      Quackenbush is not mistaken. Hurney just confirmed that in the last few days. The articles that you’re talking about were from AFTER they decided they’d tried enough.

    • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blitzradio Eric Quackenbush

      Regardless, he was made at least two offers to become the highest paid defensive player in the league. Who wanted to play for a 3-4 defense? Who said his skill-set was better suited for such? Who said that he would only play for four teams? Who said he wanted to leave the state he had always lived in? And now he’s going to cry about it because his feelings were hurt? Please. Who’s the attention whore here? When else have I been sadly mistaken?

  • http://www.facebook.com/shannonleighowens Shannon Owens

    Alright Jay and Big C, obviously both of you did not listen to Peppers press conference call at all. You’re right, he wanted out of Carolina, yet I do recall at the end of the season him wanting them to call him and finally liking Meeks style of play. Like he said, HE WANTED TO CONTINUE PLAYING HERE. He just wasn’t making enough MONEY. The office probably already knew at some point near the end of the season they might want to clean house and go younger so they surely weren’t going to pay him $20 million when he was only mediocre the past few years. I don’t care that he left! If he didn’t like it, FINE. GO. But don’t complain NOW that just because they didn’t call you RIGHT AWAY to tell you they didn’t want to pay you that kind of money when I’m pretty sure all of the players that were shockingly and unexpectedly let go weren’t told immediately either. Just because his team is 3-1 doesn’t mean it’s all because of him, hello? Last time IIII checked, football is a TEAM sport? NO ONE really enjoys how the Panthers have handled this season, but the PLAYERS are trying to learn and make it better. I’m not MAD at Julius because I could really care less. He is meaningless to me and I have been more ready for him to get out of there than he was to leave. He was the pink elephant on the team and you KNOW him getting paid that much money probably affected their mentality as a unit somewhat. So before you respond to ME or ERIC, start getting your facts right..

  • jay

    Shannon did you just copy and pastes what Eric wrote? Like the only cry babies I see is ya two. Peppers did the right thing. He left a team that gave up on their fans. Why would you even take the front office side they are the reason we are 0-4. Its not john fox fault he’s dealing with a rebuilding team. And Eric if you don’t want people to comment on your reports than don’t put a comment box. And at least lets agree on this, the panthers doesn’t know how to handle cutting and signing players. Why would you let Jake go? You still had to pay him. At least let him be a mentor to these new QBs. bottom-line Shannon and Eric I really like your two cents input but make sure they have values. Thanks…….p.s Shannon Owens your HOTTT!!!! and ERIC i love your articles keep up the good work.

    • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blitzradio Eric Quackenbush

      Believe what you like Jay, this is about Peppers being upset that he wasn’t given a formal goodbye on the telephone. When I lost my job, my boss didn’t call me to give me a heads up, or anything. Was I upset about it? No. Looking back, am I upset about it? No. Welcome to the real world Julius, where people don’t kiss ass like you’d like them to. Shut up and play football, princess.

    • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blitzradio Eric Quackenbush

      If there isn’t a saying for it, there should be. It wasn’t my money they paid Delhomme to go play for another team, why should I care? I don’t. Maybe it’s not the front office’s fault this team is 0-4; it was 0-3 to start last season. And there were anywhere from 16 to 21 returning starters from the 2008 season. Front offices have to look at where things are going and at some point it becomes apparent that the progress plateaued and was on a decline. It’s the way things go. As I’ve said, I don’t want a team that wins for a season, because that’s just avoiding the inevitable. If we have to sit through a losing season or two to put a winning product out on the field for a number of years, then so be it. I’ll sit through the heartaches. I’m a fan. I love the franchise and the people who brought it to the Carolinas. I don’t always love the decisions; that would be ridiculous to say so, and I do make it known when I don’t agree with something.

      Also, I don’t have a problem with people commenting on what I write. But I get a laugh out of those who say they don’t like what they read, which in turn I simply say you know what to do if you don’t like it, right? Thanks for the reads, Jay. We might have to agree to disagree, but I appreciate your opinions and readership.

  • John

    You know this “gave up on the fans” meme is getting old. They cleaned out the old and overpaid. They have quite a few possible stars in the making getting invaluable playing time. Whenever the next season starts they will be somewhere between 60 and 80 million under any new cap according to all the pundits. This will give them the requisite dollars to sign draft picks, keep pretty much all their young core stars and will leave them dollars to pursue at least one top free agent if they desire. That’s not giving up, that’s smart business. That’s giving the next staff the best possible circumstance to win in. That’s a long term decision. This team is on the verge of being not bad with all these rookies. How much better will they be next year?

    Now I would say they carried it too far when they didn’t go get a receiver. I still say they are regretting not making a play for Housh. I know I wish they had. I bet Smith does as well. But all in all we are seeing a team that is positioning itself for the long term. Richardson wants a consistent playoff team. They are laying the foundation for the next staff to build on and do just that.

  • jay

    Im sorry john are you living in wonderland? He gave up on this team. Yes he’s rebuilding but that doesn’t mean the panthers are going to be a playoff team 3 or 4 years from now. The panthers where one QB away from the playoff. The defense is solid all around. The offence was good; all we needed was a QB and a WR. Everything else WAS in place. Chris Harris is still a better S then martin. DT Lewis and Kim is better than we have now. All we needed was a mike Vick and a T.J or boldin and we would have been a high playoff team. So don’t give me the crap about rebuilding. Look at the lions they been rebuilding for 10 years. So if we had the players we should have kept them and went to the playoff. BOTTOMLINE JOHN if you like rebuilding go be a lion fan, they do it every year.

    • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blitzradio Eric Quackenbush

      At what point does the team rebuild? Keeping so many veteran players around gets expensive after awhile, like it or not — agree or disagree. That’s the fact. Especially those who expect to get paid the big money. At some point, you have to cut your losses and start fresh. Every franchise goes through the process at some point.

    • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blitzradio Eric Quackenbush

      The Panthers were one QB away from the playoffs: Who do/did you have in mind who would push the Panthers into the playoffs? How do you know this team is more than three or four years from being playoff contenders? You must have concrete evidence to state such a claim. This has been a fairly resilient franchise when faced with adversity — perhaps better than “fairly.” I don’t think Richardson has “given up.” Quitters never win and winners never quit. You have to start seeing the forest despite the trees. Think more long-term and less about right now. I do think Richardson wants to see a consistently winning product on the field before he dies. He’s not like some of these sandbagging owners who just willy-nilly slap a team together and let whatever happens happen, then lay the blame elsewhere. Look at the Redskins. They were highly touted as playoff contenders going into the season. Now you might say they are highly doubted. Donovan McNabb was going to push them over the top, and Fat Al, well…I won’t even get into that. Mike Shanahan inherited a mess. Carolina pretty much wiped the slate clean and took the pieces it has drafted and is adding to it. In the long run, we’ll all have a greater appreciation. Sure we want wins, but I want a winning franchise, not a winning season followed by a losing one followed by who knows what? Don’t you?

  • Brandon

    WELL said. I was beginning to think I may be the only one who noticed the Pep paradox. Being an NC native, I felt insulted that he never tactfully addressed the masses of fans who supported him and the team. I don’t always agree with the way the Panther’s do business, and I certainly understand making that $$$, but come on, man! You could at least float a little gratitude to the fan base that helped make you the “Stuper” star you are today. What a douche.

  • Mark

    Wow…looks like I got here too late. Seems to be quite a bit of confusion about whether Pep wanted out of Carolina or not. I would have to say,after listening to his conference call that he probably wanted a new start somewhere where he could play the position the way he wanted to play it. And he probably had a feeling,agents tend to be well informed about a teams’ intentions,about what was going to happen this year and didn’t want to be a part of it. And I can’t blame him…. he came to Carolina when the Panthers were horrible,and improved the defense from Day One. He put fans in the stands and helped put W’s in the column.

    What I don’t like about Pep is how he expected the Panthers to change their scheme to please him. And then when it came time for the divorce,he gets mad because Fox and Hurney didn’t roll out the red carpet and give him a going away party. BOO HOO!!!

    The NFL is supposed to be played by men,I wish they would act like men. Both on and off the field.

  • hihosilver

    I’m with you on this one Eric. Julius is twisting the situation to put him in a better light. And honestly he should be greatful for how well the Panthers organization treated him. If I were in charge, as soon as he signed the Franchise Tag, I would’ve gone shopping. For a draft pick that is. I would’ve put the word out that Peppers was up for grabs and given him to the highest bidder without thinking twice. His “four teams” be damned (please pardon my french.)
    Although I doubt I would’ve put the FT on him being that he stated several times he wanted out of Carolina so that he “could reach his full potential” oh, and the fact that he so desparately wanted to play in a 3-4 defense… By the way, can someone remind me what defensive scheme the Bears play?

    The bottom line is he made it clear he wanted out of here when we offered him at least 2 lucrative contracts that would’ve made him the highest paid DE in the league. What did Pep have to say about that in a radio interview? “Just barely.” Exscuse me? How many millions of dollars above the second guy do you have to be? And then when we let him go (because he told us he wanted out, and no $$$ amount would sway him), he gets upset that he didn’t a phone call. Suck it up Peppers. You got your massive contract, and got out of carolina. That’s what you said you wanted, why are you still whining?

    • http://www.blogtalkradio.com/blitzradio Eric Quackenbush

      Thank you, sir. I couldn’t be in more agreement with you. It boils down to Julius being a media attention whore. This IS the new Julius we are seeing by the way…at least for now. This is the outspoken Julius “Team Leader” Peppers.