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		<title>Bountygate Fallout: Vilma walks, Brees Compares Goodell to the Bush Administration</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Monday&#8217;s hearing on &#8220;Bountygate&#8221; obviously left a bad taste in some players&#8217; mouths. A really bad taste. Even tackle Eric Winston of the Kansas City Chiefs speaks of regrets in the collective bargaining process where the NFLPA didn&#8217;t push back against giving Goodell &#8220;absolute power&#8221; over league disciplinary matters. &#8220;It seems like he&#8217;s (Goodell) running [...]</p><p><a href="http://catcrave.com/2012/06/19/bountygate-fallout-vilma-walks-brees-compares-goodell-to-the-bush-administration/">Bountygate Fallout: Vilma walks, Brees Compares Goodell to the Bush Administration</a> - <a href="http://catcrave.com">Cat Crave</a> - <a href="http://catcrave.com">Cat Crave - A Carolina Panthers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_7208" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/92/files/2012/06/5831252.jpg"><img src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/92/files/2012/06/5831252-300x199.jpg" alt="" title="NFL: New Orleans Saints at Minnesota Vikings" width="300" height="199" class="size-medium wp-image-7208" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Dec 18, 2011; Minneapolis, MN, USA; New Orleans linebacker Jonathan Vilma (51) rests along the sidelines during the game with the Minnesota Vikings at the Metrodome. The Saints win 42-20. Mandatory Credit: Bruce Kluckhohn-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p>Monday&#8217;s hearing on &#8220;Bountygate&#8221; obviously left a bad taste in some players&#8217; mouths. A really bad taste.</p>
<p>Even tackle Eric Winston of the Kansas City Chiefs speaks of regrets in the collective bargaining process where the NFLPA didn&#8217;t push back against giving Goodell &#8220;absolute power&#8221; over league disciplinary matters.</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems like he&#8217;s (Goodell) running amok with it (his authority) and deciding to do what he wants and it really doesn&#8217;t matter what the evidence says. Unfortunately, we don&#8217;t have an alternative option to appeal to,&#8221; Winston said.</p>
<p>New Orleans players Scott &#8220;Steak&#8221; Fujita, Jonathan &#8220;Oh&#8221; Vilma, Anthony Hargrove and Will &#8220;Fresh Prince&#8221; Smith all left yesterday&#8217;s hearing roughly an hour after it began and the proceedings have since drawn ire from not only Saints players but others as well. The trio minus Vilma returned for the afternoon session.</p>
<p>The three players released a statement questioning if they were even active participants in the hearing.</p>
<p>Vilma&#8217;s attorney, Peter Ginsberg, called the process &#8220;a sham&#8221; because there has been no specific evidence submitted that implicates his client. Vilma is suing Goodell by name for Defamation of Character, saying his reputation has been irrevocably damaged. Fujita makes the same claim about his own, but as far as I know has not (yet) sued over it.</p>
<p>Fujita said Monday that he &#8220;yet to see anything that implicates me in some pay-to-injure scheme; not in the last three months, not in the last three days, not today. And perhaps that&#8217;s because there is nothing that could implicate me in some pay-to-injure scheme.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You know, throughout this process, it&#8217;s become increasingly clear to me that just because someone disagrees with the NFL&#8217;s interpretation of an incredibly flawed investigation, it&#8217;s assumed that he&#8217;s lying, and to me, that&#8217;s a shame. That&#8217;s a shame,&#8221; Fujita said.</p>
<p>&#8220;The NFL has been careless and irresponsible, and they&#8217;ve made mistakes, and at some point, I think they&#8217;ve got to answer some questions about that,&#8221; Fujita continued. </p>
<p>Drew Brees, ired over his own contract negotiations having stalled, still came to the defense of his own with a bizarre tweet: &#8220;If NFL fans were told there were &#8216;weapons of mass destruction&#8217; enough times, they&#8217;d believe it. But what happens when you don&#8217;t find any????&#8221;</p>
<p>In politics, the first one to start the Hitler comparisons usually loses. The same can be said of such upstanding citizens as Saddam Hussein and comparing this situation to geopolitics is a very adolescent response. Drew, just stick to the facts next time, or better yet, just keep your trap shut okay? You&#8217;re not helping.</p>
<p>In fact, the same evidence presented by the NFL was given to a dozen NFL reporters covering the event as they were brought into a conference room where lawyers and security personnel presented it as it was presented to the players in the hearing. Assistant Head Coach Joe Vitt and former Defensive Coordinator were shown testifying that the bounty system did, in fact, exist according to at least one of the reporters present, NFL.com&#8217;s Steve Wyche.</p>
<p>His recollections can be found in this video where he explains what he was shown:</p>
<p>www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d829f028c/NFL-reveals-video-evidence-of-Saints-Bounty-program</p>
<p>They were also shown a Powerpoint presentation that detailed computer records. One of the items was a ledger detailing a bounty program that rewarded players for &#8220;big hits.&#8221; Wyche also said that players had pledged $35,000 for anyone able to &#8220;take out&#8221; Brett Favre during the NFC championship game in 2009. Vilma is said to have pledged $10,000 himself.</p>
<p>They also saw a picture of former reality star &#8220;Dog the Bounty Hunter&#8221; was used when talking about taking out Seahawk RB Marshawn &#8220;the Beast&#8221; Lynch. Next to the photo were typed comments like &#8220;Now it&#8217;s time to do our jobs&#8230;collect bounty$$$!&#8221; and &#8220;No apologies! Let&#8217;s go hunting!&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also video of Anthony Hargrove telling a teammate to &#8220;give me my money&#8221; when it was thought Favre was injured in that game. The video I saw was in conjunction with the following article posted on NFL.com here:</p>
<p>www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d829f0155/article/nfl-saints-motivated-by-dog-the-bounty-hunter</p>
<p>If you are on the fence about the existence of the bounty program, I urge you to watch this video (the top link I shared) and see for yourself.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the evidence is crystal clear that this happened. We&#8217;ve got testimony from multiple coaches, computer records, and even video and audio DURING that 2009 playoff game against the Vikings as evidence &#8211; and there&#8217;s even more where that came from.</p>
<p>So far, those players that claim their reputations have been damaged are certainly correct, but it was of their own doing &#8211; not Roger Goodell&#8217;s. I think they&#8217;re just denying it for PR purposes, hoping that most fans won&#8217;t look any more deeply into things than sound bytes from players themselves. </p>
<p>I think once all is said and done, the players who are currently espousing lack of evidence, &#8220;unfairness,&#8221; and trying to fight the consequences of their actions will find that people won&#8217;t be taking their &#8220;word&#8221; for much of anything. The simple fact of the matter is they are lying.</p>
<p>Someone please let me know when the grown-ups arrive.</p>
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		<title>State of the NFL: Pathetic</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2012 18:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Slate Schwertner</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Growing up, we all admired at least one athlete and we would do anything to be like him/her. Today, that might not be such a good thing. The Bountygate situation is proving to be bad for the reputation of the league. Basically the entire ordeal is two sides of an argument yelling that the other [...]</p><p><a href="http://catcrave.com/2012/06/08/state-of-the-nfl-pathetic/">State of the NFL: Pathetic</a> - <a href="http://catcrave.com">Cat Crave</a> - <a href="http://catcrave.com">Cat Crave - A Carolina Panthers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_7178" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/92/files/2012/06/5915660.jpg"><img class="size-medium wp-image-7178" title="NFL: NFC Divisional Playoff-New Orleans Saints at San Francisco 49ers" src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/92/files/2012/06/5915660-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Jan 14, 2012; San Francisco, CA, USA; New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees (9) warms up before the 2011 NFC divisional playoff game against the San Francisco 49ers at Candlestick Park. The 49ers defeated the Saints 36-32. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p>Growing up, we all admired at least one athlete and we would do anything to be like him/her. Today, that might not be such a good thing.</p>
<p>The Bountygate situation is proving to be bad for the reputation of the league. Basically the entire ordeal is two sides of an argument yelling that the other is lying. Is this what we want our kids to see? Do we really want to show our kids that accusations of lying is okay?</p>
<p>I personally have a niece. Now, she&#8217;s only 9 months old so she&#8217;s not affected by this, but a few years she&#8217;s going to be looking to some star as a role model and I can honestly say that if it is one of the players in the NFL, I hope they are different from today.</p>
<p>These men are being paid to play football, a sport that they love, yet they can&#8217;t manage to play because of contract talks. Listen, I know that money is important to a man like Drew Brees, but what message are you sending to you younger fans.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m a kid that looks up to Brees, I&#8217;m learning one thing: it&#8217;s okay to not work if they don&#8217;t pay you enough. That&#8217;s not a mentality that children should be learning. I&#8217;m a recent college graduate, and I&#8217;m unemployed, but I would NOT turn down a profession job because of the pay right now, within certain statutes. That&#8217;s not a quality that people need.</p>
<p>Bountygate is possibly one of the worst things the NFL could have had happen. Grown men are paying each other to knock each other out. That&#8217;s almost like a kid giving another kid $5 on the playground to go push someone over. I understand football is a violent sport, but the level of hatred and neglect that this team has shown is unacceptable.</p>
<p>If I was a parent, I would keep my kid away from the news stories surrounding the NFL these days. Growing up, I looked to Troy Aikman and Michael Jordan as role models, and I think I turned out okay. But, imagine if I had grown up admiring Jonathan Vilma and Plaxico Burress. I bet I would have had a different outcome.</p>
<p>We shouldn&#8217;t stand for this. We pay these players and right now they just aren&#8217;t up to par with our standards. Morals mean something to me, and should mean something to this fan base. I&#8217;m not saying boycott, I&#8217;m just saying don&#8217;t let your kids grow up disappointed.</p>
<p>Ultimately, it is our job to point out the flaws in modern day athletes. Players have this notion that they can do what ever they want without any consequences. But, when I hear a kid tell me he&#8217;s not going to college because LeBron and Kobe didn&#8217;t go, it upsets me.</p>
<p>The youth of this country is losing it&#8217;s grasp on reality and morality. We all know it stems from the behavior of these professional athletes, and the NFL is the biggest offender.</p>
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		<title>Bountygate Player Suspensions Doled Out</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ken Dye</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>See the guy in the photo above? Good! Because you will NOT be seeing him on the field in 2012. The NFL office handed out suspensions for Bountygate today and this fall there will be a 2 Saints that won&#8217;t go marchin&#8217; into anywhere for a while. Saints&#8217; linebacker Jonathan Vilma has been suspended for [...]</p><p><a href="http://catcrave.com/2012/05/02/bountygate-player-suspensions-doled-out/">Bountygate Player Suspensions Doled Out</a> - <a href="http://catcrave.com">Cat Crave</a> - <a href="http://catcrave.com">Cat Crave - A Carolina Panthers Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.</a></p>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_7060" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><a href="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/92/files/2012/05/5812284.jpg"><img src="http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/92/files/2012/05/5812284-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" class="size-medium wp-image-7060" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Dec 18, 2011; Minneapolis, MN, USA; New Orleans Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma (51) argues for a call towards referee Walt Anderson (51) during the third quarter against the Minnesota Vikings at the Metrodome. The Saints defeated the Vikings 42-20. Mandatory Credit: Brace Hemmelgarn-US PRESSWIRE</p></div>
<p>See the guy in the photo above? Good!</p>
<p>Because you will NOT be seeing him on the field in 2012.</p>
<p>The NFL office handed out suspensions for Bountygate today and this fall there will be a 2 Saints that won&#8217;t go marchin&#8217; into anywhere for a while.</p>
<p>Saints&#8217; linebacker Jonathan Vilma has been suspended for the entire 2012 season &#8211; effective immediately &#8211; and three others received lesser suspensions. WITHOUT pay. DE Will &#8220;Fresh Price&#8221; Smith will miss the first four contests. </p>
<p>This will be welcome news for Cam and the rest of the Panthers, who take on the weakened Saints&#8217; defensive unit in week 2, a perfect spot for the Panthers to avoid any emotional highs of &#8220;us-against-the-world&#8221; the Saints players will probably have coming into the first week. It&#8217;s now a game the Panthers SHOULD win.</p>
<p>Current Packer DE Anthony Hargrove will miss 8 games and Scott Fujita, now a Brown, will miss the first three.</p>
<p>All four are suspended without pay.</p>
<p>I think the lesson here that the league is sending out is quite clear from a financial standpoint. It&#8217;ll cost Vilma over $3 million dollars even after he agreed to a pay cut for this season, perhaps in anticipation of the penalty. </p>
<p>Seriously, when I first learned of this &#8220;bounty program&#8221; going on (along with everyone else), my first thought was &#8220;Were the players really THAT stupid to do such things for so little money, compared to what their salaries are? Ten grand is Chump Change for the risks of being found out!&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure many of the readers of this website had similar thoughts. It wasn&#8217;t exactly a reach to get the idea in the first place.</p>
<p>NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell addressed the issue, saying &#8220;In assessing player discipline, I focused on players who were in leadership positions at the Saints; contributed a particularly large sum of money toward the program; specifically contributed to a bounty on an opposing player; demonstrated a clear intent to participate in a program that potentially injured opposing players; sought rewards for doing so; and/or obstructed the 2010 investigation.&#8221;</p>
<p>2010. Has it been that long? Sure doesn&#8217;t seem like it, does it?</p>
<p>Goodell continued. &#8220;No bounty program can exist without active player participation. The evidence clearly showed that the players being held accountable today willingly and enthusiastically embraced the bounty program. Players put the vast majority of the money into this program and they share responsibility for playing by the rules and protecting each other within those rules.”</p>
<p>In other words, Roger here is saying he&#8217;s punishing the ones who led the team in general and who put the money up, specifically. What he didn&#8217;t say was what I said. </p>
<p>They were idiots to do it in the first place. Ten grand to &#8220;knock Brett Favre out of the game?&#8221; What&#8217;s 3,000,000 divided by 16? Gotta be twice ten grand, at least!</p>
<p>Actually, Vilma&#8217;s REDUCED salary for this year was to be a reported 3.3 million. That&#8217;s roughly 200 grand per game. Break it down further, if your defense is on the field for 50 plays, that&#8217;s $4,000 per play. </p>
<p>The math says Vilma makes a &#8220;bounty&#8221; every 2 or 3 plays just for showing up. I guess that explains how he could FINANCE the thing, since the bounty was peanuts anyway. I&#8217;d have laughed in their faces if I were a player and this hare-brained scheme was cooked up over the lunch money offered alone&#8230;not to mention the fact I&#8217;d have (privately) pointed out in no uncertain terms the risk/reward here is not too good if we&#8217;re caught.</p>
<p>Apparently, that never happened. The Defensive Uncoordinator at the time, Gregg Williams, ran the scheme from 2009 to 2011. The investigation began in 2010, if Goodell is accurate.</p>
<p>Williams has been justifiably banned from the NFL indefinitely, meaning he still has a chance of being let back in after a laundry list of hoops for him to jump through is completed.  </p>
<p>Hmm.</p>
<p>Well, the Saints apparently have no spies in the league office if they were still running the scheme after the investigation had begun. That&#8217;s the good news for the NFL. </p>
<p>The bad news is this scandal occurred just as Goodell and the NFL in general have been trying to raise awareness over head trauma/concussions among players. Twenty or even ten years ago, everyone involved might have gotten off with a hefty fine with Head Defensive Scourge Williams possibly getting a 1-yr suspension plus a fine. In this climate? Uh-uh. No, no, noooooooooo.</p>
<p>My own reaction to the suspensions without pay is to ask the question, &#8220;Do the Saints just keep the salary money in the bank or will Goodell have them donate it to charity of some sort?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d think if the Commish really wants to drive home his point, he&#8217;d have the future un-issued paychecks of these athletes go to the fund for injured and retired players. I know that at least one such program exists from news tidbits I&#8217;ve heard before and also I think (don&#8217;t quote me on this part) there&#8217;s something in the current Collective Bargaining Agreement regarding it. </p>
<p>If not, $3.3 million dollars would be some nice seed money for such an endeavor and would come from quite the appropriate source.   </p>
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